Monday, October 20, 2008

Abortion

This is a paste from a debate I am having against my friend Jeremy. I just want you guys to read this.

Before this, Jeremy said that he is for McCain, as he is against gay marriage and abortion also. He regretted that:




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Today at 4:22pm
I am for Obama. Gay Marriage and abortion are personal choices, and everybody should have the right of choice.
 

Today at 5:55pm
i am a christian. the bible clearly states those are wrong. and also in the Bible sin is what brought the end of societies. i beleive if that is stuff is aloud God will judge america just as he did Sodem and Gamora
 

Today at 6:10pm
clearly? about abortion? how about quoting a passage, please?
 

Today at 6:14pm
You are killing off an empty shell. If the personality is already in there, than we would be robots with all our responses pre-programmed in for us. and robots are boring and cannot love.
 

Today at 6:16pm
the soul is a consciousness. and unless you can remember the face of the person who pulled you out of your mom, than you did not have a consciousness either as a newborn.
 

Today at 6:23pm
how would u feel if ur mom said oh ur just an empty shell ur not worth giving birth too???
 

Today at 6:32pm
i would not feel or understand what she said. The Ben you are messaging is his collection of memories, experiences, and personality. All these things influence my decisions. On the other hand, the Ben that could be aborted (ie, in my mother's womb) would not have the mental capacity to understand 'decision', or if, i could, would choose either, for i have no experience and no ethics.

Are you going to resort to insults now?
 

Today at 6:36pm
i didnt mean that as an insult. but do u beleive babies are humans. and the passage is ecc. 3:1-8 is the passage about abortion
 


Today at 6:54pm
You mean, "a time to be born and a time to die" ?

In abortion, you are not actually born. You are still in the womb. but if "born" means from conception to actual birth, than yes, that would be a legitimate passage.

Anyway, what was the "but do u beleive babies are humans." stuff? Are you saying i think that babies are not humans? if so, than of course babies are humans. But if you say, do you think that babies are human beings, with a soul and a conciousness and a personality pre programmed in, than no, babies are not humans (with a conciousness and soul)

this has been a wonderful debate. this is so going on my blog.





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1 comment:

Babblefish said...

Wow, I just had a debate with him over whether gays could be Christians. He doesn't get the point of a debate. I could disprove everything he said and he would go right back to it, like it was still just how he read it. He also has an issue about thinking that his interpretation of the Bible is the correct one. I think I'm gonna post that debate now, at least on Facebook.